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Old 11th March 2006, 07:32 AM
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I saw the word "frumpled" in the internet, and it can't be found in the dictionary while there are a lot "frumpled" being used in google search. Could you tell me what "frumpled" means exactly? Thank you.

* Evangeline Lilly Was "Frumpled": Ian Somerhalder (Boone) was the first to be cast; Evangeline Lilly was the last. Bryan Burk said she looked "frumpled" in the audition, and they asked her to do it again with her hair pulled back.

*Frumpled Fairy Tales

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*The professorly, frumpled guy (whose name I can't recall but who is a liberal) was downright pro-Bush, compared to the "conservative" duo + Hume.

*Besides Buffy's all frumpled, she's never frumpled--I mean, look at her hair.
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Frumple (verb) is listed in the OED.

As you would expect, it means wrinkled, crumpled or creased. That would fit with most of your examples.

The author of the Frumpled Fairy Tales probably liked the sound of the word.
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Old 11th March 2006, 11:47 AM
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Frumple (verb) is listed in the OED.

As you would expect, it means wrinkled, crumpled or creased. That would fit with most of your examples.

The author of the Frumpled Fairy Tales probably liked the sound of the word.
Thank you very much, panjandrum.
My dictionary doesn't have frumpled or frumple, so I thought it is a word made up by people nowadays. Thank you for offering the definition.
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Old 11th March 2006, 06:09 PM
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Frumpled is definitely not a new word
1398 The flesshe in the buttockes is fromplyd and knotty.
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Old 11th March 2006, 06:26 PM
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Frumpled is definitely not a new word
1398 The flesshe in the buttockes is fromplyd and knotty.
Two more words that can't be found in the dictionary: flesshe and fromplyd.

Flesshe can be seen in the google search but not fromplyd--there's zero searching list for fromplyd.

It's surprising that there are so many google searching numbers for "frumpled", which says it's a common used word, but not every dictionary has it.
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Hi jokker,

You might wish to note that the quote as provided by panjandrum was from 1398, which makes it Middle English. The OED (Oxford English Dictionary) is one of the only sources that provide such extensive use of words and their etymological roots.

Alas, while frumpled buttockes themselves have, unfortunately, not ceased to exist, the forms of the words flesshe and frompyld have evolved into the more modern flesh and frumpled.

I find it odd, as well, however, that frumpled (or frumple) fails to show up in my Random House unabridged dictionary, nor in any of the three online dictionaries I checked. It does exist in the Merriam-Webster's unabridged dictionary, and means creased or crumpled.

I did find several instances for frump, frumpy and/or frumpily. Odd thing is, frumpled fits very well into modern English.
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Old 11th March 2006, 06:50 PM
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Hi jokker,

You might wish to note that the quote as provided by panjandrum was from 1398, which makes it Middle English. The OED (Oxford English Dictionary) is one of the only sources that provide such extensive use of words and their etymological roots.

Alas, while frumpled buttockes themselves have, unfortunately, not ceased to exist, the forms of the words flesshe and frompyld have evolved into the more modern flesh and frumpled.
So it is...ah, thank you, GenJen54. Now I see the reason why. You have ended my puzzle. ^^
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I find it odd, as well, however, that frumpled (or frumple) fails to show up in my Random House unabridged dictionary, nor in any of the three online dictionaries I checked.
Yes! Yes, now I understand that they only hides in some dictionaries!
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Old 11th March 2006, 07:02 PM
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Frumpled is definitely not a new word
Now I see, it's because that "frumpled" is too old a word that sometimes it hides with its companions in some precious dictionaries.
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Old 11th March 2006, 09:11 PM
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It was unkind of me not to explain flesshe and fromplyd when I quoted that old example. I'm sorry you had to look them up.
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Re: frumpled
My dictionary doesn't provide the origin of the word "frump", or "frumpish" or "frumpy", but now I'm wondering whether they share a common root with "frumpled".

Anybody?
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Very good question.
I just went to have a look.
The etymology of frump is not certain. The only suggestion is a possible connection with frumple

I'll summarise the story (based on OED definitions and etymologies).

To frumple (wrinkle, crumple) may come from Dutch verrompelen with the same meaning.

Frump (noun) may be a shortened form of frumple. The meaning has changed over time from a sneer or snort, to sulks and bad temper and then to a cross, grumpy old woman - no doubt with a frumpled face.

Sounds like you are right.
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Interesting!

On this side of the pond, "frumpy" means somebody who is unkempt and many years behind the fashions. According to my Random House dictionary, a frump is a woman who is "dowdy, drab and unattractive".

I had no idea that it had different connotations over there.

Thank you for the research.
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The etymology of frump is not certain. The only suggestion is a possible connection with frumple
Frump may not have an etymology, but in my family it had a genealogy. I have only to think of two particular maiden aunts. Fortunately many frumps tend to take the genes out of the pool when they leave.
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Interesting!

On this side of the pond, "frumpy" means somebody who is unkempt and many years behind the fashions. According to my Random House dictionary, a frump is a woman who is "dowdy, drab and unattractive".

I had no idea that it had different connotations over there.

Thank you for the research.
It was my pleasure - I have learned a lot from this thread and it has been fun - especially in comparison with the other boring threads that are around today it's been a delight.

Sorry if I left out too much in my last post. The OED would support your understanding of a frump.

I think we are united this time.
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Alas, while frumpled buttockes themselves have, unfortunately, not ceased to exist, the forms of the words flesshe and frompyld have evolved into the more modernflesh and frumpled.
Excuse me. What does this "buttockes" mean here? "Buttock" means one of the fleshy parts of your body that you sit on, as the dictionary says. But it seems not fitting here...
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Frump may not have an etymology, but in my family it had a genealogy. I have only to think of two particular maiden aunts. Fortunately many frumps tend to take the genes out of the pool when they leave.
Excuse me, maxiogee. May I ask what "the pool" means here? Does it refer to "gene pool" or something else? And why is it fortunate for those frumps to tend to take the frumpy genes out of the pool when they leave?

Edit: Fortunate to produce more frumps??
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Excuse me, maxiogee. May I ask what "the pool" means here? Does it refer to "gene pool" or something else? And why is it fortunate for those frumps to tend to take the frumpy genes out of the pool when they leave?
Yes, 'pool' means 'the gene pool'.
It is fortunate that they take the genes out of the gene pool because I consider 'frumpiness' an undesirable trait in humanity.
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Yes, 'pool' means 'the gene pool'.
It is fortunate that they take the genes out of the gene pool because I consider 'frumpiness' an undesirable trait in humanity.
Thank you for your further explanation, maxiogee.
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Interesting!

On this side of the pond, "frumpy" means somebody who is unkempt and many years behind the fashions. According to my Random House dictionary, a frump is a woman who is "dowdy, drab and unattractive".

I had no idea that it had different connotations over there.

Thank you for the research.
Thank you for the excellent discussion between you and panjandrum.
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Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:46 AMLanceM Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals

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Can anyone tell me if it is possible to edit an existing connectionstring with the DataConnectionDialog at runtime in my own winform application? I can create a new one at runtime in my own winform application using the following code:

Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI.DataConnectionDialog dcd = new Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI.DataConnectionDialog();

Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI.DataSource.AddStandardDataSources(dcd);

Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI.DataConnectionDialog.Show(dcd);

Once I have created one, I would like to be able to use the same dialog to edit it by feeding it the existing connectionstring information (the equivalent of the PromptEdit method of the MSDASC.DataLinks object).

Any help would be much appreciated.
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Hi Lance,

I apologize. I should have clarified.

I said it cannot be used at run time because the assembly (Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI.Dialog) is not licensed for redistribution.

If, however, the assembly already exists on the machine (because VS is installed), you can indeed use it as you have described. To use it to modify an existing connection string you will need to do an equivalent of the following:

dcd.SelectedDataSource = DataSource.SqlDataSource
dcd.SelectedDataProvider = DataProvider.SqlDataProvider
dcd.ConnectionString = 'Data Source=myserver;Initial Catalog=Northwind;Integrated Security=True'

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Milind


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Hi Milind,

Thanks for your quick response and help. This worked with a minor tweak to the order of the lines of code. Below is the code that worked:

using Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI;

string strConnectionString = 'Data Source=myserver;Initial Catalog=Northwind;Integrated Security=True';

DataConnectionDialog dcd = new DataConnectionDialog();
DataSource.AddStandardDataSources(dcd);

dcd.SelectedDataSource = DataSource.SqlDataSource;
dcd.SelectedDataProvider = DataProvider.SqlDataProvider;

dcd.ConnectionString = strConnectionString;

DataConnectionDialog.Show(dcd);

Thanks again for your help,

Lance
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Even if MS allowed the redistribution of those DLLs, that only would work with the 'standard' .NET data providers, namely, SQL Server, Oracle, OLEDB and ODBC. It would not work with, say, ODP.NET for Oracle, Sybase, MySQL or whatever else. See my blog post:



http://msmvps.com/blogs/carlosq/archive/2008/01/16/more-on-quot-howto-using-the-choose-data-source-dialog-of-visual-studio-2005-from-your-own-code-quot.aspx



So, what is really needed is a single pair of DLL that works with all registered DDEX providers (which should register outside Visual Studio), and then make then redistributable.



As it should be clear now, the history of ADO.NET design-time data source dialog couldn't be worse: lack of support in VS.NET 2002/2003, and half baked support if you want to use them outside VS with ANY ADO.NET data provider which supports DDEX, not to mention the legal issue of making nothing redistributable...
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Hi Lance,

It is not possible to use the DataConnectionDialog at run time. It is meant for design time experience only.

Thanks.

Milind Lele
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Hi Milind,

It is possible to use it at runtime, I have done it (see code in previous post). I have managed to use it to create a connectionstring but wanted to know how to use it to edit an existing one.

Lance
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Hi Lance,

I apologize. I should have clarified.

I said it cannot be used at run time because the assembly (Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI.Dialog) is not licensed for redistribution.

If, however, the assembly already exists on the machine (because VS is installed), you can indeed use it as you have described. To use it to modify an existing connection string you will need to do an equivalent of the following:

dcd.SelectedDataSource = DataSource.SqlDataSource
dcd.SelectedDataProvider = DataProvider.SqlDataProvider
dcd.ConnectionString = 'Data Source=myserver;Initial Catalog=Northwind;Integrated Security=True'

Thanks.

Milind


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Hi Milind,

Thanks for you help. I'll give it a try.

Lance
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Hi Milind,

I tried the editing code you supplied and it failed because Datasource.SqlDataSource is null when you try to assign dcd.SelectedDataSource. Other than the line creating dcd, are those three lines of code all I need? Please let me know.

Thanks,

Lance
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Indeed! Keep the rest of the code in your original post the same. All you need to do is add the lines I had posted.

Thanks.
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Hi Milind,

Thanks for your quick response and help. This worked with a minor tweak to the order of the lines of code. Below is the code that worked:

using Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI;

string strConnectionString = 'Data Source=myserver;Initial Catalog=Northwind;Integrated Security=True';

DataConnectionDialog dcd = new DataConnectionDialog();
DataSource.AddStandardDataSources(dcd);

dcd.SelectedDataSource = DataSource.SqlDataSource;
dcd.SelectedDataProvider = DataProvider.SqlDataProvider;

dcd.ConnectionString = strConnectionString;

DataConnectionDialog.Show(dcd);

Thanks again for your help,

Lance
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Hi

How do you return the results of the dialog to say a text box?
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To return the results of the dialog (i.e. the connectionstring) to a text box do the following:

TextBox1.text = dcd.ConnectionString;
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Thank you.

I did eventually stumble across the solution after many a messing around with what intellisense offered.

Can I ask, for an undocumented dll as this, how do you find out a solution to the question I asked without guess-timating.
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This 'Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI.Dialog.dll' is distributed freely with Visual Studio Express. Given this information, do you believe that Microsoft would give permission to distribute the .dll if asked via the proper channels?
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If you don't ask you don't get. I wouldn't know who to ask though.

I thought I'd just put a disclaimer saying the user was responsible for first installing VS 2005 on their machine before using my app.
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Forget about the DataConnectionDialog and just use the DataLink UI that is distributed with MDAC. Reference the KB article below.

KB #310083 - HOW TO: Build a Connection String Programmatically in ADO.NET
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As the knowledge base says this should only be used as a temporary measure. It is also not .Net specific and involves interop which is not ideal.

What we need is a consistent .Net dialog to create database connections that we can all reuse in the same way we have a consistent dialog for opening files, printing etc.

A feedback request to MS for such a beast has been created here:

http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=291885

Please vote!!!

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Even if MS allowed the redistribution of those DLLs, that only would work with the 'standard' .NET data providers, namely, SQL Server, Oracle, OLEDB and ODBC. It would not work with, say, ODP.NET for Oracle, Sybase, MySQL or whatever else. See my blog post:



http://msmvps.com/blogs/carlosq/archive/2008/01/16/more-on-quot-howto-using-the-choose-data-source-dialog-of-visual-studio-2005-from-your-own-code-quot.aspx



So, what is really needed is a single pair of DLL that works with all registered DDEX providers (which should register outside Visual Studio), and then make then redistributable.



As it should be clear now, the history of ADO.NET design-time data source dialog couldn't be worse: lack of support in VS.NET 2002/2003, and half baked support if you want to use them outside VS with ANY ADO.NET data provider which supports DDEX, not to mention the legal issue of making nothing redistributable...
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Agreed! We don't need those actual DLLs. What we need is a standard component/control that offers the same functionality preferably supplied along with visual studio. And it definitely should handle 3rd party data providers.
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The Data Connection Dialog Source Code is just released at: http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/Connection

You can take a look at the introduction on: http://blogs.msdn.com/vsdata/archive/2010/02/02/data-connection-dialog-source-code-is-released-on-code-gallery.aspx

Briefly, it provides three functionalities mentioned in this discussion thread.

· Build/Modify connection strings.

· Customize the data connection dialog.

· Write your own custom data providers.

Hope this helps,

Yaohai Zheng
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Re: invoke ado connection wizard at runtime C#

Re: invoke ado connection wizard at runtime C#: "Stumbled across this by accident while I was looking for something else:

Step 1:

Add references to:

Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI.dll
Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI.Dialog.dll

You will need to browse for them at C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual
Studio 8\Common7\IDE
(assuming that your VS2005 is installed to the default location)

Step 2:

Wherever you want to use it, execute:

Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI.Dialog.DataConnectionDialog _dialog = new
Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI.Dialog.DataConnectionDialog();


Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI.Dialog.DataSource.AddStandardDataSources(_dialog);


Microsoft.Data.ConnectionUI.Dialog.DataConnectionDialog.Show(_dialog);

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by seanadams.com (463190) * writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:17AM (#32315448) Homepage
You didn't answer his question at all, which I thought was a good one. He said nothing of earning a living but rather to 'make interesting discoveries and potentially chart new territory in the home'. Well, he did say 'make an investment' but I read that as 'in myself / my hobby'.

I don't know the answer. The areas of science that I could imagine practicing at home are well trodden. That's not going to stop me from making electromechanical things for fun, but I don't expect to change the the world with it.

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Help start the revolution! (Score:5, Insightful)
by FlyByPC (841016) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @02:56AM (#32315274) Homepage
Robotics is always interesting. Servo motors are pretty easy to control, once you learn a little microcontroller programming. All you need is a basic understanding of algebra; write a few timing loops and angle-to-pulse-width conversion routines and you're there. (I've been using PIC16 microcontrollers, which do this sort of thing nicely.)

Besides, that way, you'd have a good chance of being among the first to officially welcome our new robotic overlords!
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Re:Help start the revolution! (Score:5, Informative)
by negRo_slim (636783) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @02:59AM (#32315300) Homepage
http://societyofrobots.com/ [societyofrobots.com]
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Re:Help start the revolution! (Score:4, Informative)
by zero0ne (1309517) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:22AM (#32315484) Journal

Phidgets [phidgets.com] If you would like a bit of an easier ride.

Version 2.0 of their Phidgets SBC is going to be really slick, but don't expect it anytime soon.

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Absolutely (Score:4, Insightful)
by b4upoo (166390) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @02:59AM (#32315296)

The prime frontier is in software. New concepts and applications based upon scientific discoveries are all over the world of software.

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Astronomy! (Score:5, Insightful)
by Colonel Korn (1258968) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:00AM (#32315306)

Only a few hundred planets outside the solar system have been discovered. Some of those were found from backyards by amateurs.

Check out The Sky is Your Laboratory by Robert Buckheim. It's a ~$30 book that will show you how you can participate in meaningful astro research with no equipment beyond a stopwatch for the simplest stuff. Later chapters get increasingly complex and show you how to do things that be pretty big contributions to the field.
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Re:Astronomy! (Score:5, Informative)
by Random Walk (252043) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:24AM (#32315498)

In all fairness, if you want to make a contribution that is worth co-authorship of a paper, you might need at least a good amateur telescope (maybe on the order of 10 inch aperture) and a CCD camera.

With such equipment, and clear skies, you can do photometric monitoring of stars (e.g. for outbursts, or planet transits). Asronomers always have the problem that big observatories focus on big telescopes, and it's difficult to do things that require small telescopes, but long-term monitoring.

One example would be monitoring of the transits of extrasolar planets, to detect timing anomalies (which could be caused by undetected additional planets). Or monitoring stars with planets detected by radial velocity variations, to discover eventual transits. Or monitoring of ongoing gravitational lens events... there are quite a few oportunities for amateurs.

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Re:Astronomy! (Score:4, Informative)
by Xolotl (675282) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @07:08AM (#32317220) Journal

Since it's astronomers that build and operate the observatories, and we've discovered, among other things, exoplanets from long term monitoring programs at said observatories... your statement makes little sense.

Given the low cost of high end amateur grade scope, if useful science could truly be done on it, where are the ongoing proposals from the astronomers that such things be be built/obtained?

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GP is correct. The long term monitoring for exoplanets was done at professional observatories, but using what are now considered 'small' telescopes, equivalent to large-ish amateur telescopes . But there is only so much money and so much professional manpower for these. Amateurs with a good location, telescope and camera and some care can indeed contribute to real, published research, monitoring comets, asteroids, variable stars of all types, exoplanets and stars which might have exoplanets, or looking for supernovae. It's a very good field for amateurs.

here are some (non-exhaustive) examples and discussion:
http://www.aavso.org/aavso/about/pro_am.pdf [aavso.org]

(disclaimer: I am a professional astronomer)

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Einstein had no lab (Score:3, Insightful)
by ThreeGigs (239452) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:04AM (#32315336)

Einstein didn't have a lab. His lab was his brain, and his 'thought experiments' were obviously productive.

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Well, it would seem to me... (Score:5, Insightful)
by taoboy (118003) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:04AM (#32315344)

...that you're more interested in the recognition than the achievement. Most folks I know who make real breakthroughs in a discipline are genuinely interested in the discipline.

I occasionally teach and mentor in a doctorate program, and my essential observation is that those who are interested in the topic have a higher probability of finishing than those who are 'chasing the paper'. Even those of the latter category who finish the program eventually find such a perspective catches up with them in the workplace or in academia.

I don't mean to sound trollish here, but you need to search your motivations and go for the thing that really interests you. That'll render reward far past achieving 'just something, anything' And that motivation will overcome obstacles such as home-based, etc. You'll find a way, if it interests you...

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You totally picked the wrong optical hobby, dude (Score:5, Interesting)
by vlm (69642) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:07AM (#32315372)

... lab, to astronomy, etc....

You totally picked the wrong optical hobby dude. Unless you live in some sort of paradise, its either going to be too cold, too hot, too rainy, too buggy, too cloudy, too windy for lightweight mounts, or bad temp inversions, about 99% of the time. Now, a microscope, on the other hand, maybe with a cam attachment hooked up to a PC, with some image analysis software, that could be big fun under any weather condition. And they both cost about the same, less than a car payment for junk, about a single monthly mortgage payment for the good stuff, and about one decent used car for used pro-grade hardware.

Also, we all look at the same sky. That means intense competition. But we all have different dirt and ponds. Yet another vote for microscope.

I'm not convinced they are areas that would lend themselves to making new discoveries in the home and with home equipment, which is what I'd really like to do.

Yeah well you're about to learn the hard part is not deciding what to buy, or even whipping out a credit card, the hard part is figuring out how you'll determine its something new. Pretty easy if you want to discover something new to you, look, an algae species I've never photographed before. Pretty hard if you want to darn near prove a negative, prove no human being has ever photographed that particular species of algae before.

Something New is not necessarily discovering a new individual thing. Something New might be using yer computer and some homemade software that emulates a red blood cell counter to chart the population of algae per sample vs ... something, to make interesting predictions, or discover a new effect. Or turning your computer-microscope into the worlds weirdest spectrophotometer, to measure ... something.

What R&D hobbies do Slashdotters have that provide them with opportunities to make interesting discoveries and potentially chart new territory in the home? Do such hobbies exist?

On the other hand, one good thing about the astronomy hobby is the AAVSO, American Association of Variable Star Observers. You'd never guess that their URL happens to be:

http://www.aavso.org/ [aavso.org]

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I've often pondered... (Score:5, Interesting)
by skids (119237) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:07AM (#32315376) Homepage

...building a 'museum' of silly 'perpetual motion' machines from designs on the web.

As far as serious 'science' might I suggest this -- while groundbreaking research is mostly hi-tech requiring expensive equipment, one thing that doesn't get done much anymore is well within reach: verifying or debunking claims about various products. This can range from, say, taking time lapse photos of -- oh, I don't know, the progress of competing wart removers -- to basic qualitative chemical analysis of product ingredients (is that fish oil actually mercury-free).

Another idea might be designing coffee table doodads that show off scientific phenomena or engineering tricks.
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Re:I've often pondered... (Score:4, Informative)
by phantomfive (622387) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:51AM (#32315702) Homepage Journal

I don't know, the progress of competing wart removers

I really like your idea, but I want to make a comment on the difficulty of this one. I had three warts that I wanted to remove, but I wasn't sure how well the salicylic acid would work, so I only tried it on one of them. Weird thing is, as soon as it worked on one, the other two warts disappeared on their own, without anything. So to be sure, you would want to apply the treatments on different people. Maybe you could do an internet request to find people who have warts, want to get rid of them, and are willing to go along with the experiment.

Incidentally, compound-w freeze off actually made my warts bigger. Stay away from that stuff. (YMMV)
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What are the chances? (Score:5, Insightful)
by Mindcontrolled (1388007) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:07AM (#32315380)
The probability of you making a significant discovery at home is close to zero. That is not meant to disencourage you. I spent enough time in professional labs myself to know that you can work for years on end on a scientific topic professionally without making any significant discoveries. However, home science is fun, so, by all means, go ahead with it! Just don't choose your field on the vague possibility of discovering something of greater meaning, just pick something that is actually FUN to you.

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Re:What are the chances? (Score:4, Informative)
by Councilor Hart (673770) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:30AM (#32315532)
Sample bias.

For every Edison, Tesla and others, there are thousands and thousands of unknown people.

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by hey! (33014) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:20AM (#32315476) Homepage Journal

The probability of a scientists making a significant discovery in his lab isn't much better than zero. The Flemming 'Gee this moldy stuff might kill germs' is not even a once-in-a-career moment for the vast majority of scientists. Scientists work in a community, and the majority of them advance that community by applying tiny deltas to the scientific consensus.

I think if you want to be an amateur scientist, you might find it most rewarding to choose a branch of science with an enthusiastic amateur community, such as comet hunting or meteorology.
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Sounds like you need a collaborator (Score:3, Interesting)
by damn_registrars (1103043) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:11AM (#32315406) Homepage Journal
I would suggest you check with your local university or public research institution to see who is involved in fields that interest you. You may be able to catch a talk where they say something like 'I have found XYZ but I don't have a way to monitor or experiment on BCD', where you may be able to find an angle that you can assist with.

If you read into the history of Medtronic (and the pacemaker itself) you'll find that their beginnings weren't too far from what I just described - an inventor with an interest working with a physician researcher with a need.
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Days of Garage Inventor long gone(if ever existed) (Score:3, Insightful)
by Faizdog (243703) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:11AM (#32315414)

It's great that you'd like to tinker around and play with stuff at home. You may learn some things, and it will definitely present with some interesting engineering problems. But true scientific R&D, where you discover something new, forget about it for the most part.

The only domains where a lone tinkerer can still make an impact and 'discover' something new is in pure math, or algorithmic research. And even there, it's a rare thing.

The days of the lone researcher are long since past, if they ever really existed in modern history. Sure during the Renaissance and through the 1800s and early 1900s a lone researcher could discover/invent something new. However, even during the latter part of the aforementioned time period, the individuals in questions (Maxwell, Faraday, Watt, Bell, etc) often had years/decades of experience and/or education in the fields they made discoveries in. And the myth of the lone inventor during this latter part wasn't really true, for example Edison had a large lab full of employees for his research.

In the contemporary time period, it's HIGHLY unlikely (I'm just reluctant to say impossible). All the low level hanging fruit in most fields has been mined. There's a reason that PhDs take a long time, there's a lot to learn and catch up on. Also, most discoveries, especially in basic science ( Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Astronomy) require lots of expensive capital equipment and labs to do. And often, it's not just one scientist, but an entire team of collaborators working on a problem from many different angles.

Now, there may be some interesting inventions/engineering solutions a lone inventor can PERHAPS come up with, but they wouldn't be new scientific discoveries. Also, as another refinement of my point, there are some things an individual can still do, like say perhaps discover a new species, but not in their backyard (unless you live in Brazil). Even then, you need a commitment of resources and time to explore the still hidden parts of the world, in the rainforest, or deep under the sea.

So, while the concept of the lone scientist is romantic, exciting and inspiring, in the modern era it's unrealistic in my opinion.
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Ask A Radio Ham (Score:3, Interesting)
by Ganty (1223066) writes: Alter Relationship on Monday May 24, @03:14AM (#32315426)

I do research into high IP3 HF receiver front ends, other radio hams are working with software defined radios, recovering digital signals from noise, DSP chips and even the way the brain perceives sound.

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May 21, 2010 --
Local technopreneur Kai Staats is setting out to prove that a picture is not worth a thousand words - it's worth one language-spanning, artistically rendered word that he hopes will connect the globe.
iConji on iPhone
Staats, with the help of a team of creative and technical minds, launched iConji this month. iConji is a set of user-created 32x32-pixel symbols - a lexiConji - that represent words or ideas, not dissimilar from ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics or American Sign Language. The major difference, of course, is that the symbols are delivered electronically to computers, phones, tablets, etc. Therein lies the key to iConji adoption, Staats hopes.

He pointed out that just over a decade ago, almost half of the world's population had not used a telephone. By the end of 2008, mobile phone use was estimated to include 4 billion people - 60 percent of the global population. The program will start with applications for the Web, Facebook and iPhones. Users can customize their own database of symbols that will display as personalized keyboards. The keyboards, or 'buckets,' are limited only by the amount of memory space on the device.

Staats developed iConji through his research and development company Over the Sun LLC. It started as a distant idea - an 'ah-ha' moment - over a beer with his former business partner Dan Burcaw. Burcaw's company, Double Encore, developed the iPhone app, which is expected to release soon.

In all, Staats worked with more than a dozen other individuals, none of who have training in linguistics or social sciences.

Conjuring iConji has been 'the most fun I've ever had,' Staats said. And that's the point.

The system has to be fun and interactive to be widely adopted - 'as fun as Facebook,' Staats explained. He realizes that the language will probably be used mainly as an entertaining tool for texting, but he doesn't think it will end there.

'I want this to be recognized as a full language,' he said.

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Just as languages have evolved over millennia, Staats feels that iConji will progress - much more rapidly - as users submit their own symbols. Not all symbols will transcend cultural barriers. The symbol for 'hello' - an open hand with an outward pointing arrow - might carry different connotations in different countries. That's why any user can submit his or her own symbol, with the added incentive of being able to track its use.

In addition to carrying a word meaning, the symbols will also have data tied to them - date-time stamps; geographic location; and the actual language translations. Individual users can even manipulate the symbols they put into their personal 'bucket,' adding extra information that the recipient can view with a click or a touch on the picture, or small character tags to express grammatical elements such as tense and parts of speech. For example, a small plus sign in the corner of a symbol makes it possessive.

While iConjigation of verbs is not necessary, iConji does have some rules. For one, anyone can contribute to the lexiConji, but the product itself is not open source; the code is proprietary. Symbols representing commercial products are verboten without a license, allowing iConji to remain free for users by generating revenue for commercial symbols. Companies would pay a nominal fee every time their symbol is used, and in return, would be able to know where and when people were discussing the product.

Over the Sun also plans to license a software development kit to encourage others to build iConji apps. Whether the kits will be free has yet to be determined.

Also to be determined are the future uses of (and revenue streams for) iConji. Staats already envisions educational applications, since each symbol carries its own translation. iConji launched in Chinese, English, French, German, Hindi, Italian, Japanese and Spanish. While iConji isn't meant to compete with translation tools such as iGoogle or Babblefish, it could be useful for language learning.

Like its uses, the future applications for iConji are virtually limitless. Staats mused that the symbols could be associated to musical notes or sounds so that poetry could be a musical composition or vice versa. No matter what the future holds for the program, it will have to start with simple dialogue - an iConjisation.

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